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Post by ditkanate on Aug 7, 2021 16:46:14 GMT
CHPTAAA 8 SPOILER SPICE - THE ANDERS CHAPTER!
wew lad things gettn rowdy in teh ship! they is officially boarded by teh salamander trees. anders lighting guns one that tried to huk him. also a lot more insight into his claustrophobia thing. ALSO why the Service sent him through despite all teh red flags. cuz he's related to the peeps that got kilt in the first contact. can't pass up a good opportunity for some marketing and PR!
a few times i chuckled. one was when he was saying how Jackson is sexy when she's mad. he'd totally town her bigtime if she promised to be mad at him the whole time! ;hyper;;;;
and then he's trying to get gilly to unlock the small arms locker thing and how they keep them locked so people like him don't have access to guns and stuff. reasonable! unless something like this happens! NOW LOOK!@#$@#$ GAH!@#$ of course, the only reason this is happening at all is because he towned the ship sooo.... ;eyes;;
also now understand why he high tailed it out of that room when the crabs were sealing it off. it wasn't a "i don't care about gilly" thing. it was a pure 100% panic and fear thing!!@# ;usehaid;;
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Post by isthisamo on Aug 8, 2021 15:19:05 GMT
i do think the providence's share their findings and tactics, but there's something about this VZ zone or whatever that they're in where they are cut off from communications right now. yeah, i'm not sure how often they communicate. but probably same time they get to send and receive their tweets and steff.
anders is such a dumb asshole! how is any of this gilly's fault? if anders hadn't attacked the ships cores it wouldn't have tried to seal the room! i think it is fare that gilly didn't predict that one of them would try to destroy the ship AI!! but, i guess that is jackson's point. i'd like it just in case. i guess that's the whole point of just in case.
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Post by ditkanate on Aug 8, 2021 15:43:57 GMT
anders is such a dumb asshole! how is any of this gilly's fault? if anders hadn't attacked the ships cores it wouldn't have tried to seal the room! i think it is fare that gilly didn't predict that one of them would try to destroy the ship AI!! but, i guess that is jackson's point. i'd like it just in case. i guess that's the whole point of just in case. i didn't mean to imply this specific situation is in any way gilly's fault, only that his overt trust in the ship grates on me at times. CHPTAAAA EHH 9? BEANLADY CHAPTER! wel eye gez gilly won't irritate me any more since he's daid, at least that's the assumption. maybe teh ship will save him in one of its chunks somehow. :/ several spots in this chapter made me laugh out loud. i'd have to look back to remember tho. a lot of cloudy beanthinking... wait, anders has a gun? hmm that's probably not good. wait we're going where? teh jetpod? AW FUCK THAT'S DEF NOT GOOD HELLO THOSE ARE DECORATIVE ONLY!@#$@#$@#$ at this point it seems like all the trouble they're having is Service's fault! too confident their sweet ai ship can get through anything even if the crew they put on her is completely incompetent and / or batshit crazy!!@# *jackson looks arounf teh pod at the dumbjim handles and big block lettering* AWW FUCK!@#$ ;screamears: guess we're gonna get a look at this sweet planet!
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Post by isthisamo on Aug 9, 2021 6:55:00 GMT
CHPTAAA 8 SPOILER SPICE - THE ANDERS CHAPTER! wew lad things gettn rowdy in teh ship! they is officially boarded by teh salamander trees. anders lighting guns one that tried to huk him. also a lot more insight into his claustrophobia thing. ALSO why the Service sent him through despite all teh red flags. cuz he's related to the peeps that got kilt in the first contact. can't pass up a good opportunity for some marketing and PR! what is crazy is that life doesn't know any of this. or maybe she does but is worse at her job than i even realize.
one thing that struck me is it was like we were reading the entire chapter from the perspective of a child. like i realize there were parts where anders was a child, but you couldn't really tell much difference when he was back to adult!
that does sound pretty great, tbo i'm not sure that made any sense. shouldn't the captain just be able to unlock it at any time? did gilly have to solve a puzzle to open it? i didn't really understand that at all. like, you can either open the fucking locker or you can't. :headscratch: right, i'm about to be trapped in the box! ack!! but man anders is horrible. wow! it's like gilly is more irritated with their wording. it's not really that he doesn't think there should be a kill switch. it's saying things like the ship will get mad or sad. look, the ship might town the fuck out of us, but it isn't angry! it's just doing what it determines makes the most sense given its circumstances and mission. for example, not having an AI at all on the ship it considers a poor course of action.
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Post by ditkanate on Aug 9, 2021 17:04:48 GMT
what is crazy is that life doesn't know any of this. or maybe she does but is worse at her job than i even realize. yeah it's unclear to me what Life knows. clearly she wasn't told he was claustrophobic. i'd think they'd give her a heads up, but it seems like Service just wanted to get the "right" people on the ship even if they had to lie to them to do it. and once they're on there, i mean, the AI does everything so it should be fine. relax guy! well the fear stuck with him bro! jeez! you're a real hard ass! seems like that's one of those joke sex positions i've read somewhere on the horrible webs. like, get behind ur lady, stuff ur cock in her ass and call her by another lady's name. THEN SEE HOW LONG YOU CAN HANG ON!@#$ it's the rustbuster!@#$ or something like that, i think i'm getting the details wrong. i guess we call that "the anders" now. you'd certainly think it would be easier yeah! again, the ship makers design was thinking, they won't ever really need this stuff anyway. just put it on there for show. isn't that very nerd IT tho, to be arguing the wording of something instead of getting the point they're after. MMMM THAT IS NOT TECHNICALLY ACCURATE MMMMM anyway, as it turns out, not having an AI at all WAS A VERY POOR COURSE OF ACTION!@#$ too bad it takes the fucking ship an hour and a half to reboot!!@#$ CHPTAAAA ehh.. 10? SPICE! THE JACKSON CHAPTER!@#$$#@ so we get background on old jacksy jack. some insight into why she doesn't super trust the 100% AI ship. again, the computer people being "technically" accurate with their description but frustrating to real life people in the situation! well actually the ai DID work, there was just some communication issues. the GIGANTIC FLEET TOWNING HIVE was discreetly marked as unidentified. it isn't OUR fault we'd never seen one like that before. while technically true, it's like, ehh... i think we should have emphasized this in training or something. MAKE SURE YOU CHECK ON THE UNIDENTIFIED STEF HTH TIA!@#$ i suppose everything is easy to say in hindsight. but i think i side more with jackson than the ai people. you're trying to manage 1000 different variable and have been told the ai is smart and catches stuff, i wouldn't think it was missing something that important. anyway, not my favorite chapter so far but it was interesting.
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Post by isthisamo on Aug 9, 2021 23:47:16 GMT
CHPTAAAA EHH 9? BEANLADY CHAPTER! wel eye gez gilly won't irritate me any more since he's daid, at least that's the assumption. maybe teh ship will save him in one of its chunks somehow. :/ i feel like gilly can't be dead! he was the only competent person on the whole ship! sure he might have been a little irritating, but he at least understood that you are fucked without the AI whether you like it or not.
well sure! but that IS what gilly is! they basically stuck one of the programmers of the AI on the ship!
that did seem a bit excessive for a reboot! i realize the AI is big and all but jeez! i feel like also if the ship survived with gilly, if it ever was to be pissed, now would be the time! it's like it woke up and was in the middle of being towned the fuck out of and had to be all :screamears; WTF!!?? why are you just waking me up now!@#!#?? WTF ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING!?? OMG I HAVE THE WORST CREW EVER!@#!@#
i did enjoy this bit as well. NOT THE PODS!! service seems pretty horrible. but then aren't they always, whoever they are.
i guess it's the getting everyone injured and killed and fucking everything up that makes me frustrated with ol' anders. sorry you got locked in a box but man ur still pretty horrible!!
do we have to refer to it?!!@
wait, you want to get into what locker?! we didn't even right any code for opening those up!!
i guess what i find strange is why bother even putting guns in them then!!
the shitty pod actually seemed to do pretty well for decoration!! i did kind of enjoy beanbag grabbing jackson's hair and stuff and she's just all GET THE FUCK OFF ME! WOULD YOU STRAP IN!! and then looks back. OH! i see. bit of an issue back there. WELL WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO!!!??
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Post by ditkanate on Aug 10, 2021 13:36:45 GMT
well sure! but that IS what gilly is! they basically stuck one of the programmers of the AI on the ship! i feel like we're doing this for every crew member! well obvs THIS person was a bad choice... *puts on ship bigtime* :B this gave me the thought of how this dumbjim crew of 4 is basically like 4 retardmaws running around fucking stuff up!@# DAHHHH..... WE MUK CLIPZ 4 EARF N STEF!@# ALSEW WE TOWN SHUPP!!@# :B *clap clap* ship: ;weary; good grief boxboy, get over it!@#$ i guess everyone yells that as they big die because of dumb shit boxboy did. what? guns? they'll never need them and we won't let them get to them. but we're definitely putting them on the ship, sure! also escape pods that they should in no circumstances every use. or touch. or look at. you know, certainly the WEAPONS officer should have easy access to, you know, weapons. right? OHH HELL NO HE'S THE LAST PERSON THAT SHOULD HAVE THEM!@#$$#@$#@ come to think of it, they'd have been WAAYYYYY better off holing up this crew in an underground bunker on earth and have them send fake clips from there!@#$ just make it a solid AI ship of death and send it out!@#
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Post by isthisamo on Aug 11, 2021 12:28:03 GMT
yeah, not the most bestest of chapters. i was kind of thinking from right when it started. aww man. we're back in time to see about how jackson ended up here? i don't really care! this whole chapter is a waste of my time! HELLO! THEY ARE CRASHING INTO A HIVE AND ON THE PLANET!@# I DON'T WANT A STROLL DOWN DUMB OL MEMORY LANE!@! anyway, definitely clear why jackson was quick to want that kill switch. man this ship is full of a bunch of nitwits and fuckups! and by a bunch i mean 4!! i feel like we're doing this for every crew member! well obvs THIS person was a bad choice... *puts on ship bigtime* :B i'm curious if we'll find out a bit about how or why the ship apparently picked them. the ship had to be like WTF!?? when anders starts drilling out its cores. i know you are a moron but jesus christ! we need those to do teh fighting of teh stuf that WANTS TO KILL YOU ALL!@#! :weary: also i'm reminded about how shitty life was at being life! hello! you're supposed to see this stuff coming!@#! i guess you were too pissed that jackson called you a soldier or something. :B i feel like people and the ship didn't see this one coming with the whole anders thing towning them at just the right inopportune time and also for the horrible captain to throw the kill switch then and stuff. but maybe this is exactly what the super smart ai wanted the whole time! this is exactly how we win baby!@#
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Post by ditkanate on Aug 11, 2021 13:31:33 GMT
yeah, not the most bestest of chapters. i was kind of thinking from right when it started. aww man. we're back in time to see about how jackson ended up here? i don't really care! this whole chapter is a waste of my time! HELLO! THEY ARE CRASHING INTO A HIVE AND ON THE PLANET!@# I DON'T WANT A STROLL DOWN DUMB OL MEMORY LANE!@! anyway, definitely clear why jackson was quick to want that kill switch. man this ship is full of a bunch of nitwits and fuckups! and by a bunch i mean 4!! allo! come on in and have a cuppa! take a stroll down nitwit 4's memory lane! *pats seat* HAY!@# EYE NEED THOWZ!@# i guess that's the ship. it should have sent it's billion crabs to, you know, STOP ANDERS! instead of welding him inside the room where he's towning the cores. i mean, wtf! ur just gonna seal him in there and let him town a whole room of cores?? maybe the SHIP isn't nearly as smart as we think! or it's only smart when it comes to salamander killing. not much thought was given to the crew interaction part! i guess that's the ship. see, here's what we do. we want maximum buy-in from teh home croud on earf right? so we pick the 4 worst incompetent crew people ever, that are at the same time sympathetic characters back home! we know eventually they'll f up so bad they'll big die which will accomplish 2 things. we'll learn more about teh sallys and drum up even more rage / support for teh war!@#$ ;usehaid; if there aren't ever any casualties people start to lose interest!@#$ CHPTAAAAAA eh. 11? TEH ANDERS ON TEH PLANET CHPTA!@# so eye gez they survived teh crash somehow. cuz they landed in a goopy ocean maybe? or lake. i dunno. seems suspect. i guess beanlady is banged up but she already was hurt pre-crash. anyway! one of anders' lines cracked me up. "What a piece of crap world. Orange rocks and ugly clouds and water that has hairs." ;hyper;; oh man. i luv swimming in thick, hairy water!@#$ ;hyper;;; so is this gonna end up being the salamander homeworld or something maybe? ;dunno; we were told they don't HAVE a home world but Service doesn't seem like a reliable source of information at teh moment.
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Post by isthisamo on Aug 12, 2021 2:29:39 GMT
allo! come on in and have a cuppa! take a stroll down nitwit 4's memory lane! *pats seat* i'm still not sure about the whole undetermined thing. i think mostly what you said is right. there was an expectation that the computer was supposed to handle everything. and undetermined is pretty unhelpful. maybe, DANGER! UNDETERMINED OBJECT! ALSO IT'S REALLY BIG SO THAT COULD BE CONCERNING! that would maybe be something it could have printed out. i'm with you on being confused about that. but i think it has multiple rooms of cores. so maybe it figured just have anders drill all those to his hearts content and it can use its manufactory to make a new core room and then the old one will be the room of broken old cores/anders prison room. :dunno: see! that's what i'm talking about! the ship is actually so far ahead it's figuring out how to gain more funding for the war because its figured out that they need more providences. who doesn't love swimming in the thick hairy water!? not sure about that crash survival either. maybe the hairy water is really good at softening landings. it's like landing on a huge hairy pillow. they landed on the planet's nuts! :hyper: i don't know about the homeworld thing, maybe. no indication either way really. there are certainly salamanders on the world walking arounf. the high gravity does seem suited to them i think, they way they've been described. and yeah that beanlady should be in some pretty rough shape! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!@#@! WE'RE FUCKED!@!
for god sakes beany!! ur fucking life!! ur supposed to be holding US together!@#@!
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Post by ditkanate on Aug 12, 2021 14:23:12 GMT
i'm still not sure about the whole undetermined thing. i think mostly what you said is right. there was an expectation that the computer was supposed to handle everything. and undetermined is pretty unhelpful. maybe, DANGER! UNDETERMINED OBJECT! ALSO IT'S REALLY BIG SO THAT COULD BE CONCERNING! that would maybe be something it could have printed out. yeah, it was a failure of the AI and a human failure. either in correctly communicating what the crew should expect out of the ai, or in training the crew on how to monitor undetermined threats. either way there was a breakdown. maybe it isn't fair to ask the ai to do something it can't do, but the crew needs to know what it can and can't do and fill in the gaps!@#$ i dunno, i blame Service. ;stuburn;; i believe it does have rooms of cores, but from the chaos that resulted from losing ONE, i'm not sure it should surrender a whole room of them just cuz anders is a nutjob!@#$ reminds me of the I, Robot plot, where the robot is charged with only doing good for humanity. but the robot sees that the best way to help humanity involves killing quite a few of them! RELAX IT'S FOR TEH BAEST! I'M DOING WAD U AXED ME TO DO!!@# same with the ship. we sacrifice a few of these yahoos for the overall strategery of teh war! makes perfect AI/Ship sense! DON'T TELL US TO WIN THE WAR FOR YOU AND THEN ARGUE OUR METHODS!@#$ i guess all the ships are yelling that. this planet is so soft and warm and hairy and snuggly!!@# *nuzzles in good* ;wub;; seems like there are more salamanders wandering arounf than would just be looking for our crazy castaways. they don't seem to even BE looking for them, they're just wandering arounf like dumb Vogons! RESISTANCE IS USELESS. maybe this is a planet where they do stef, like stamp some official papers or whatever. i guess we'll probably find out in the next chapter so i should probably just read some more. ;pipe;; GAH!@#$ LIFE WANTS TO KILL US WTF!@#$$#@$#@ if life isn't on board with living what chance do we has!? NONE! *pea
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Post by isthisamo on Aug 13, 2021 1:11:37 GMT
yeah, it was a failure of the AI and a human failure. either in correctly communicating what the crew should expect out of the ai, or in training the crew on how to monitor undetermined threats. either way there was a breakdown. maybe it isn't fair to ask the ai to do something it can't do, but the crew needs to know what it can and can't do and fill in the gaps!@#$ i dunno, i blame Service. ;stuburn;; yeah. i'd say you are right here. i would say both, yes. but also, undetermined should have been a huge warning. HELLO! AI STUCK! WE NET FIGURE THIS OUT! THIS IS WHY U HUMANS ARE ON BOARD OR WHATEVER! TIA!!! engage your work or whatever! but the chaos was from kill switch, not from anders' craziness. the only thing anders caused was the attempt to seal up the room. exactly! so far i'd say this ship is doing a swimming job and figuring stef out and war winning and stuff! it would be simply the best if it didn't turn all the water and sweat and stuff on you into acid. it IS like that! they are the vlogons totally! except for the huking you to death part. i don't remember, i guess the vogons just used guns or something. :B
yes, yes you should! hey, just carry me some more wouldya!?
so, CHAPTER 12! THE ANSWER IS GILLY!
and also the answer is he's not dead yet! he's not doing well, but he's not dead. i figured he wasn't. or at least we'd get to read about his death, he wouldn't just be never mentioned again except missing him words.
anyway. sounds like the running the armor and guns and stuff was a stupid idea. but anyway, when the salamanders were coming for him in space and he's all, the ship is coming for me! i'm like, :suspicious: i'm thinking more along the lines of the millions of aliens that just blew up your ship!@! TIA!@ HTH!@
anyway, they're talking now! and it is a tip that we've wiped on many, and we'll wipe you too! asshat! i guess that is Mak-tak!
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Post by ditkanate on Aug 13, 2021 12:56:58 GMT
but the chaos was from kill switch, not from anders' craziness. the only thing anders caused was the attempt to seal up the room. well, yes. in this instance. in the prior instance one core caused chaos tho! so i think you're being a little cavalier with how essential a few cores can be. now, in hindsight would they have been better off not using the kill switch and just letting anders and / or gilly die while leaving the AI running? um, yah! live and learn! or, learn and die i guess it would be in this case. not that they're dead yet, despite Life's opinion. i mean, no world is PERFECT, right? they did use guns! or, you know, blasters or whatever. very poorly. ;hyper;;;; right! i mean the booko only has 4 characters!@# gotta show wad happens to teh gillster! hooray my good gilly self is saventined!@@# ;hyper;; wait a minute.... ;suspicious;;; that is SO mak-tak i can't believe how maktak that is!@#$ he's learning gilly's name. maktak: Gik. Kik. Gikky.gilly: Gikky. Yek. later on... Gikky: What are we doing here Martin!@@#$ Marty: Pak Pak. some of these exchanges were cracking me up. hey marty could you unglue un ehh... resin... my other arm here? tia!@# hth!@# makpak: nok ;stuburn; Yek!@# NokYek!@# Nok!i wonder if humans is the first race to put up a decent fight against them. and they're like HAY!@#$ WE R KIK U NET U KIK MAKTAK!@#
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Post by isthisamo on Aug 14, 2021 1:50:31 GMT
well, yes. in this instance. in the prior instance one core caused chaos tho! so i think you're being a little cavalier with how essential a few cores can be. now, in hindsight would they have been better off not using the kill switch and just letting anders and / or gilly die while leaving the AI running? um, yah! live and learn! or, learn and die i guess it would be in this case. not that they're dead yet, despite Life's opinion. i suppose. but tho i defended it a bit. i'm not sure that one core thing made any sense! i thought that it got like stuck, like the bad core was putting it in some sort of loop and i was trying to say that it made sense but really, it didn't. so the whole premise that the kill switch was created in was flimsy! THIS WHOLE BOOK IS OUT OF ORDER!@# i suppose so! ours is full of horrible people! these maktaks seem pretty effective really. yeah they've lost some numbers to these providences, but doesn't seem to have been a big deal. and i have to say having a bunch of pak pak is not what i thought was gonna happen!@@! i liked picturing him flailing and trying to run like in a cartoon but he doesn't go anywhere cuz he's in space and then slumps cuz he realizes he's screwed. i feel like he has to be rolling his eyes. jesus, gikky, yeah. sure. close enough. for fuck sake. i thought at first they was gonna be pals. but then gikky is all, i hate martin and want to kill him! really showing the aliens how good at debate us humans are!! i know, i was thinking about that question why
Wak sik kik Mak-tak
it's like, we know why WE kill all you! that makes perfect sense! but why are you killing us!? that doesn't make any sense at all to us!
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Post by ditkanate on Aug 14, 2021 19:47:24 GMT
so the whole premise that the kill switch was created in was flimsy! THIS WHOLE BOOK IS OUT OF ORDER!@# WE CAN'T HANDLE THIS BOOK!@#$@#$ that hairy water essentially being nuts is still on the table given what we discover about this planet in the next jackson chapter. :/ THIS IS NOT THE DIRECTION WE UNDERSTAND ABOUT HOW THE KILLINGS GO!@#$@#$ PAK PAK!@$# ok so read the next chapter with jackson hunting down the salamander and them figuring out what planet they're on. also if that isn't a planet, but actually a hive... how big does it have to be for it to have 1.4 earth gravity!?? unless they are manipulating teh gravity. they seem to be able to do stef like that with their huk huks. didn't really think jackson would be able to surivive that long without her suit on breathing acid. BUT HEY! SHE'S TOUGH I GUESS!@#@#$@#$
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Post by ditkanate on Aug 15, 2021 16:13:37 GMT
Chapter ehhh ANDERS! losing track of the numbers. Anders goes to save gillster!@#$
ok so jackson didn't survive. anders finds a gross hatchery place. ;puke;;
not sure i completely understand the lightning gun he's using... it sounds like he's just holding the trigger down and running through a hole of burned salamanders that he's lightning to pieces!!@@# like tunneling through a packed tunnel of them!@#$
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Post by isthisamo on Aug 16, 2021 1:00:33 GMT
WE CAN'T HANDLE THIS BOOK!@#$@#$ i guess not. yes! it basically IS nuts! HEY GIKKY!@ QUIT CRASHING INTO OUR NUTS!!! :pea:
mak-tak also i was thinking how i didn't think gilly did a good job of explaining why we are killing them. THE ANSWER IS THAT YOU KILLED US FIRST!@! we wouldn't have been able to put up this war effort if you hadn't attacked our space scientists! maybe it is in our genes gikky, but that isn't really how it was explained to us! yeah, probably manipulation cuz they love hasing tons of gravities! works for them good. was hard to get a real feel for how long she ran in that acid. but it would just be super painful, not so much killy right away i guess.
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Post by ditkanate on Aug 16, 2021 13:16:34 GMT
yes! it basically IS nuts! HEY GIKKY!@ QUIT CRASHING INTO OUR NUTS!!! :pea: mak-tak hek gikky! mak tak nek lek crek ouck netkss!!! MAK TAK KIK GIKKY!!! difficult typing up new maktak pak pak CUZ U HUKKED US FULL OF HUKHOLES THE FIRST TIME WE MET YOU!@#$#@ FUCKING ASSHATS!$#@$#@$#@ *PEA i guess that should have been gikky!!@#$ salamander to grakiky: ;eyeflash; ;hugmeat;;; i guess! *breathe* OW! *breathe* OW! *breathe* OW! *breathe* OW! *breathe* OW! *breathe* OW! *smash haid* *die* i guess i decided to rephrase that chapter.
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Post by isthisamo on Aug 16, 2021 14:24:15 GMT
oh! also she was like, well, this isn't all that different from regular running. really!
see this is why i don't run.
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Post by ditkanate on Aug 16, 2021 15:29:29 GMT
running is good for you! and, i mean, it's not so bad, relax guy take a rest! basically, just think of it like this: it's very similar to breathing atmosphere that turns your lungs into viscous pools of acid. I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYONE DOESN'T DO IT! :hyper;;
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