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Post by isthisamo on Jun 21, 2021 15:06:09 GMT
Now that i know you're super into philosophy and stuff we should have a super sweet philosophy discussion! like we are Socrates and apollo! no... apostate? hmm. Plato!! that's the one.
what i was thinking about was do we need evil or chaos for the world not to suck? like isn't the perfect world where evil is eradicated probably really fucked up in some way?
so maybe no evil, but then at least you need some chaos. are they one in the same? or does one beget the other?
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Post by ditkanate on Jun 21, 2021 16:04:56 GMT
i think you mean Aristotle!!! also, i'm currently reading this booko which is philosophical bigtime!@# ;bigbrainemoji;; perhaps you've hear of plato? aristotle? socrates? MORONS!@#$#@ also regarding your actual philosophical words there... i'd think in a world where everything was "perfect" and there's no problems or issues or whatever... doesn't it just get to the point where the TINIEST inconvenience or whatever just seems unbearable?? that's sort of how society is trending now. like kids who are using to hasing everything at the tip of their fingers can't tolerate waiting for something or having to earn it. OH MAN DOORDASH IS LATE WTF!@#$#@$ WHERE'S MY FOOD!@#$@#$# ;screamears;; like, there are still problems, but what is considered a problem gets smaller and smaller and more inconsequential the better and easier everything gets...
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Post by isthisamo on Jun 26, 2021 13:46:27 GMT
i think you mean Aristotle!!! i mean what i want to mean!@# and i'm going with plato! he's like the 11th planet of philosophers!!
YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY!!! i guess you are right. that is where we is! and perfection will only make it worse! but also, "the paradise" is both disturbing and doesn't work really. you have free will and you can do whatever you want, but luckily you will never WANT to do anything bad! ;suspicious: eh, wait. weren't the angels perfect? didn't they want to do bad stef! isn't that the hole premise of your whole story here!@#!@# so how will this be any different?
OH! if anyone steps out of line now they are eliminated immediately. no fucking about! i see. that sounds a bit totalitarian... yeah but this is god so it's OK. hmmm, i'm not so sold!!
man: hey god!! we were thinking of some changes maybe!@#
BOOOM!@#@!# KAPPOWW!@# *turns him into a worm*
wife: not exactly what we had in mind! TIA!!
*makes him a bigger worm*
so misery is the answer?
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Post by ditkanate on Jun 26, 2021 15:01:29 GMT
i mean what i want to mean!@# and i'm going with plato! he's like the 11th planet of philosophers!! ;pst; maybe he meant PLANETO! ;dunno; pretty sure the wife would be on board with the bigger worm. ;leer; also, yes, the paradise thing doesn't make much sense. oh, well you see, everyone there has already been tested and proven their faith! so if anyone does anything bad (which they won't cuz we's all perfect) then yeah, BAMMO!@#$ they is gone cuz we don't have to do this whole 6000 year song and dance of proving how horrible and useless humans are without god or something. we were at dinner recently with friends. ("friends" friends, iykwimaidyd) i mean witnesses. ok anyway, people were talking about the paradise and eating meat. and one of them who is a big meat eater was like, i'm gonna follow a cow around until it dies of old age and then immediately butcher it. *everyone nods like this is reasonable* like god can do anything and this is utopia BUT HUMANS ARE THE ONLY ANIMAL THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DIE? he can't just make our sweet fluffy pets live forever too and have meat fall out of trees if that's what people want to eat? these rules don't make any sense!@@#$@#$ maybe? i sure know that people who attain what most people define success as, (being rich usually) doesn't really automatically mean happiness. also it's strange how the human body responds to work. if we challenge it and stress it we get stronger and happier. if we lie arounf and eat donuts and sleep, we get weaker and fatter and depressed. even though people THINK that's what they want to do. i feel like i'm veering off topic. maybe not. but SOME amount of misery = less misery? oh i know where i was going with the money thing. i think at the end of the day what people want is a decent amount of freedom to do what they want. that takes a minimum amount of money. i think that's where the "happiness doesn't get tons happier beyond 75k/year" or whatever the number is. the amount of money that takes the pressure off of simply HAVING to make money to survive but not enough to have choices or do anything fun or live somewhere decently safe.
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Post by isthisamo on Jul 11, 2021 14:30:17 GMT
;pst; maybe he meant PLANETO! ;dunno; i've always agreed with what planeto has to say. he's so on target!!! but the new babies haven't been tested! i guess if you're perfect you only have perfect babies with perfect thoughts.
that's one of the big issues for me. the idea of only perfect thoughts. that's not a thing that makes sense. none of it does.
to me it's just a thing to say so you can live with things sucking. like, well, in the super sweet future stuff won't suck, promise. it reminds me of all the bullshit stories we tell children but these we're telling our adult selves. if we just tell little jonnie that his dog is dead he'll get upset. let's tell him it went to doggy heaven farm. OH! let's tell that to the dumb adults too! sweet!!
well! it may not make sense but it's the "truth" so, :dunno: indeed sir. i just think it makes sense to make the most of this life you are hasing right now. there is a good chance that the next few to 40 years is all i get. i ain't gonna blow it on some dubious promise of some future time that will be great. why not make it great now!? at least TRY!!
that's one of my issues with the witness dogma, that there is no point in trying. humans will never get it right, they will always just fuck up, so just give up and wait for god to fix it. well, if your PLAN is to not even try, then sure as shit you're gonna fail!
anyway, doesn't work for me.
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Post by ditkanate on Jul 12, 2021 16:04:26 GMT
but the new babies haven't been tested! i guess if you're perfect you only have perfect babies with perfect thoughts. right, the babies i guess would be in the same situation as adam and eve? so technically they could sin right? but instead of letting them live their horrible lives as sinners to prove how horrible everyone is without god they would just get eliminated on the spot? ;dunno; cuz supposedly what we're going through now is "one test for all time" or whatever. so, no need to make an example of the sinbabies :/ but again, is that paradise? where ur kid fucks up and gets disintegrated? OH WELL THEY WUZ EVIL *shrug* i guess that's the parents. *maybe town some more to make some more replacement kids* if ur mind was as pure as mine you wouldn't have an issue with this. but again, if we are supposed to only think purely, why did satan and then adam & eve fall anyway? especially satan teh perfect angel boy! this is another part of my complaints too, so ok satan has selfish motives grow in his heart and he's jealous of jah getting worshiped by these human creatures or whatever. ok fine. god doesn't give eve any heads up that all is not well in the universe and so even tho i made you and put you in this perfect garden as a perfect person, you can't trust any of the animals that may talk. or if some OTHER invisible voice contacts you... tell you what why don't we work out a code so you know which invisible voice is the authentic god one and you don't accidentally fall for some bullshit. but no, adam and eve i guess are supposed to love jah and his rules SO MUCH that they automatically know what to do. he did order them not to eat of the tree on the threat of death so that should have been good enough for them. anyway. not only does jah allow all of this to happen to his "perfect" creation, his solution is... 6000+ years of complete suffering and violence and death. to prove how awful everyone HE CREATED really wants to be? or, can't help but be? outside of the comparatively small handful of people who happen to hear the actual "truth" and respond to it? oh AND those people suffer and die and get killed and whatever too. that goes without saying. like, that's the solution? we don't get ONE mulligan or do-over? or like i said, even a heads up about a rogue angel that may be coming around to trick you so be on the lookout. it's all sort of preposterous. yeah it definitely feels that way right? and everyone just kind of goes along with whatever their version of the super sweet story is, whether it's JW's and paradise, or Muslims and their giant pile of towning virgins, or regular christians and heaven... how many of these people deep down REALLY believe it? cuz people sure don't like to die! i think we're all just kind of WELL, I HOPE ONE OF THESE IS SOMETHING AND I GET INCLUDED IN THE GOOD VERSION1@#$ ;pray; but as i've sort of come around on this whole topic, there definitely is a void where you look at ur next 20-30 or however many years (hell in 30 yrs i'll be 80) and you kind of go ehh... :/ :\ :/ wel, this iz net 2 grut. so, i just decline for a few decades and die? sweet. at least i'm totally unprepared due to my religious upbringing. so i have that going for me. which is nice. if you say TRUTH enough times then it's true!@# right? so our "convention" is happening right now. since we aren't doing it in person, you sit and watch half of a day on JW Broadcasting every sunday for 6 weeks . the wife had it on for a little bit sunday morning and what little i listened to the guy was saying "humans have inherited sin and are therefore horrible and fuck up all the time and are susceptible to sickness old age and death". i may be paraphrasing despite the quotation marks i used. but your statement about no point in trying reminded me of it. it's so fatalistic and negative. we are horrible cursed dust and must plead for forgiveness daily (or more!) because we suck so much and can never be good enough. at least not right now. we are good for nothing slaves who can't even get being a slave right and deserve nothing. OK THANKS! oh and everyone who isn't a witness is even worse! really shouldn't even talk to them more than you have to cuz, you know, ugh.. they have wicked hearts AND LET'S ALL PRAY INTENSELY THAT THEY ALL DIE SOON!@#$ PLEASE GOD BRING YOUR KINGDOM AND KILL THESE ASSHATS POST HASTE!@#$@#$ ;pray;
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Post by isthisamo on Oct 12, 2021 14:08:50 GMT
i never responded to this cuz the answer was very long and i kept putting it off. :embarresed: right, the babies i guess would be in the same situation as adam and eve? so technically they could sin right? but instead of letting them live their horrible lives as sinners to prove how horrible everyone is without god they would just get eliminated on the spot? ;dunno; cuz supposedly what we're going through now is "one test for all time" or whatever. so, no need to make an example of the sinbabies :/ but again, is that paradise? where ur kid fucks up and gets disintegrated? OH WELL THEY WUZ EVIL *shrug* i guess that's the parents. *maybe town some more to make some more replacement kids* i guess, maybe god just keeps all those babies from even being born? seems like a lot to manage. like a lot of micromanaging to make sure you check all babies for evilness and get rid of them right away. maybe before people even notice or you would ruin the perfect world you got going.
this always happened to me. if i try to make sense of this stuff i got down this path and always end up somewhere that doesn't really make sense and this is one of those times.
this part reminded me of the Brand New song, jesus christ. There's a spot where he asks jesus if they can work out a code. anyway, not really relevant other than it made me think of it. also, i like that song. anyway, and this one. more non-sense making times. like, everyone acts like it makes sense. but only if you don't really push it too far. just accept it. oh yeah. ok, this is the price. ok.
but like, it's a pretty high price for falling for a darn good trick when you didn't even know there was such a thing AS tricks. but ok. also, a lot of people really don't like the idea that this is just it. that we get these handful of years, whatever you're lucky enough to have. and that's it. no mas! people are like, well! i don't care for THAT at all!@ no sir!! what else you got?
well, how about when you die you don't really die at all?
OH! that sounds fantastic! i'll take that option! TIA!@ HTH!
well, all you need is prayer and faith and stuff. if you had more of that then everything else will be provided for you!
what's that? are you poor and desolate? you probably didn't has teh good faith! :stuburn:
some people i guess.
well, it will at least FEEL true. that's something. well, it'd be NICE if they could be saved. but they is horrible! that's not MY fault! plus, it's god's rules! who can argue with god?! no one! anyway. don't know if you has more to say on any of this stuff. i was gonna type up some more but was thinking i would start repeating ourselves so i didn't. :B
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Post by ditkanate on Oct 13, 2021 21:42:42 GMT
i never responded to this cuz the answer was very long and i kept putting it off. :embarresed: *points up forearm to procrastination thread* smh. ;weary; also not sure posting swoot philophitizing thotts is uber productive. also i think we are pretty much in agreeance on most of this. stop thinking and believe dammit!! unbelievable song. just the best. in fact, i think i'll go listen to it!! but don't forget, god has a PERFECT standard of justice! *looks around* right! that's what i was sort of trying to say too. people don't actually deep down believe there's something else. they WANT to! and try to! and pretend to! but all it really is is a halfhearted hopedream. what sucks about the JW version is you have to town your whole life away before finding out it isn't happening! like, if we only get our 70-80 years or whatever, it would be nice to appreciate them more while they're happening! instead JW's just shuffle through life being a janitor and not doing anything! WELL I'LL DO THE STEF I WANNA DO IN THE NEW SYSTEM! *be's a horrible janitor and preaches to people who don't give a shit* oh hey, but will this current life i have to life be the most dull, annoying thing anyone's ever seen? full of obligation and guilt and horribleness? OF COURSE! sweeet that's what i was hoping. hey we tried! remember that time i tried to give you an awake magazine about science and the bible? THAT WAS UR CHANCE AND U BLEW IT! anyway, i dunno wad we already talked about. *shrug* i keep getting interesting epiphanies from the ex-jw reddit group. like they were talking about shunning (being df'd :B ) and someone mentioned how Jah didn't shun Satan! like, satan fucks this WHOLE thing up. he's the whole reason for any of the garbage we've been talking about, and in Job, satan strolls into the meeting of the heaven board of directors and starts chatting up jah... he wasn't booted from heaven until 1914!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN! so, parents have to disown their kids and not talk to them cuz they fuck someone as a teenager (completely natural thing to do), but Satan's fine. anyway. it's weird. once you realize it's all bullshit there's SO MUCH of it that doesn't make any sense. and you wonder how dumbjim WAS i exactly? woah. shows the power of confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance and all that psychology stef. :B
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Post by isthisamo on Dec 26, 2021 8:56:22 GMT
*points up forearm to procrastination thread* smh. ;weary; also not sure posting swoot philophitizing thotts is uber productive. also i think we are pretty much in agreeance on most of this. well i don't has any control over my procrastination activities!@#! they just is! and this was not an is that it is!@ :stuburn: i guess that works for many. :dunno: love it. every time.
look, she disobeyed! and GOD OF ALL PEOPLE!@! now you all suffer for thousands of years. i don't really see any flaw in this logic. if you don't like it, you should have thought of that before you were a red!! :stuburn: although i think some people are really good at their self delusion. like they've really sold it to themselves in their selfhead or wherever. i'm not good at that, but some people are. all that crap should have made you happy!@# this just proves that you're not a good person probably or u would have been happily mining away the helium for the good of everyone. oops. i mean preaching the good preach! oh man, JW shit on science is the worst! it reminds me of the southpark chewbacca defense. why would a Wookiee like Chewbacca would want to live on Endor with the much smaller Ewoks!? IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE! that's different. god is a gold and ur a dumb stupid red!! you can't expect the same rules to apply!@#! now go pull ur daughter's legs! anyway. it's weird. once you realize it's all bullshit there's SO MUCH of it that doesn't make any sense. and you wonder how dumbjim WAS i exactly? woah. shows the power of confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance and all that psychology stef. :B
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Post by ditkanate on Dec 27, 2021 19:40:49 GMT
well i don't has any control over my procrastination activities!@#! they just is! and this was not an is that it is!@ :stuburn: that actually sounds philosophical. this is is not and is that is! ;pipe; it can be easier, in a way. thinking can be hard! just tell me wads to do and let me dum de doo dah along. true! really there's no argument even to be made! ALL OF U RED PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER AT THINKING AHEAD!@# smh tbh fwiw there seems to be some who are pretty good at it yes. but then i wonder. if they REALLY really sold it to themselves 100%... people would be a lot more ok with dying. like my wife's dad. he's dying of horrible cancer. just keeps going and doing everything to cling to another day, week, month of life. where... if you believe that when you die you will wake up in perfect health.... what's with all the fighting and clawing for another day? and ALMOST everyone is like that! i think there's some old dumb country song "everyone wants to go to heaven, but not today!" but that sentiment makes me ;suspicious; about just how much true belief there is. you jest but that is actually how you are made to feel. wE aRe a jOyFuL pEoPlE so if u is not having a greta time busily preaching and being a general freak 24/7 then you must have something wrong with you! u nett has rite atitude!@ ;stuburn; possibly bad heart condition! and by that i don't mean myocarditis or something i mean ur a bad person! what do you mean it doesn't make sense! look. the feather of a bird is hollow down the stem but is super strong. men have copied that in engineering airplanes! THEREFORE WE WERE CREATED! ;usehaid; holy f that actually fits way to perfectly. right, like those are just dumb psychology words. they work. that's why they're a thing! OH AND ALSO PEOPLE ARE REALLY DUMBJIM. ;HYPER;;; wondering if i has more to add that isn't just replying to stef. so, i keep noodling arounf the idea of acutally disassociating from jw's. basically it's like DFing urself. but sometimes i get angry about what they are doing to people's lives. and there is some pretty damning child sex abuse stuff out there. DF'd kids who are shunned by their parents and kill themselves. and it makes me want to emphatically leave instead of fading or drifting away. but then i wonder if i'm just being dramatic and there's no need to do that. it would basically just hurt mom and dad and a handful of friends. but! upside, everyone would leave us alone. i dunno, for now we just sort of barely get on zoom and don't do anything. :B
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Post by isthisamo on Jan 5, 2022 1:51:09 GMT
as i mentioned. i typed a bunch of crap up here and lost it all. i will type some here, but not sure how much energy i've got for it. we'll see, let's jump in to this scratchy pit of philosophical pitvipers!! that actually sounds philosophical. this is is not and is that is! ;pipe; this is is not and is or that and is or is not! -- our new dumbjim philosophy booko it's our best seller :B
oh yeah, so here i typed up some stuff about how this reminds me of a thing i saw/read about how our natural instinct is to not think whenever possible. because thinking is hard if we can come up with a quick answer or solution using our "gut" we'll just do that. and a lot of times, that gives us the wrong answer that just seems right without much thought. it's why people pass around stuff like and so you're like, YEAH!@# WTF!@?? THAT IS SO FUCKED UP!@ DAMN HIM AND ALL THOSE BASTARDS!!
but eh, that doesn't work at all. that math is wrong. that would be 1 dollar for every american. :B and anyway, a lot of people talk about why people fall for this. and how we don't understand million and billion very well and stuff. which is true. but really it's because we don't actually bother to think about this. thinking is hard. our gut tells us that sounds right. and we stop there.
not necessarily relevant to what we were talking about, but interesting nonetheless i thought.
exactly! it's like they can't plan for their future at all! :rolleyes: there never going to get anywhere. that's why we don't give them any sympathy. why should we?!! good point. i guess there is always a small amount of doubt in there. well, i believe, but i still can't actually prove that i'm right!! i'm not ready to bet my life on it! TIA! can i just get a pacemaker or something instead of all this gross preaching!?? TIA!@!#
so one of the things that i remember attempting to be sold to me was that the JWs are great. and if ur a witness u'll lead a great life of happiness and peace!! so, it's a win win! if they're right then you get sweet sweet forever life. but if not, you still had a super great JW life with the greatest people on earth in the greatest organization!
but, that's not true. the org or the people. i think i've mentioned before, i've now met tons of people that are just as good if not better than witnesses that i knew. and we both know how great the organization is (it is a tip that not great). but a huge difference between the "good" people that are not JWs and the JW "good" people is that only the JWs say they are the only good ones and that everyone else sucks! most, erm well, many people actually realize that there are good and bad people in all different organizations. that's how it works. there is no magic system that guarantees you to produce only good people. at least, not that i'm aware of.
oh man. so many of those. i remember the one where you take all the parts of a watch and put them in a bad and shake it forever and it won't ever be a watch. SEE!@! CREATION!!
eehh... that is not how evolution works AT ALL!! like not even close! but people are all, YEAH!@ U CAN'T SHAKE SOMETHING INTO A WATCH! :weary: no one said you could do that!@
and that book is just analogy after analogy that is nonsense and misrepresenting how evolution works to make it sound extra stupid.
Angie has often wondered how dad can fall for that stuff. but what is that, cognative disonence or something? :B
as i was typing stuff up about how the golds and reds and stuff is really similar to this i was like, wow, this is really fitting!
that can't be good. so, i keep noodling arounf the idea of acutally disassociating from jw's. basically it's like DFing urself. but sometimes i get angry about what they are doing to people's lives. and there is some pretty damning child sex abuse stuff out there. DF'd kids who are shunned by their parents and kill themselves. and it makes me want to emphatically leave instead of fading or drifting away. but then i wonder if i'm just being dramatic and there's no need to do that. it would basically just hurt mom and dad and a handful of friends. but! upside, everyone would leave us alone. i dunno, for now we just sort of barely get on zoom and don't do anything. :B
i don't envy you on any of this shit. angie was like, so how long could this go on just cuz no one would want to talk about it. like both parents are all just dum de doo dah, everything is fine. lets just not bring it up cuz they don't want the answer.
and i was all, i have no idea. that could happen. it would all depend on what specific things happen and what conversations lead to what and whatnot i suppose. :B but wow, disassociating. i can see that. i get why you are angry. but i also agree that it's hard to come up with anything that disassociation would accomplish, other than soothing some of your anger possibly. but it wouldn't do or change anything. it wouldn't right any wrongs.
anyway. :applerub:
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Post by ditkanate on Jan 5, 2022 22:08:50 GMT
as i mentioned. i typed a bunch of crap up here and lost it all. i will type some here, but not sure how much energy i've got for it. we'll see, let's jump in to this scratchy pit of philosophical pitvipers!! ;sadbackandforthsmiley; i haven't read this yet so i guess i'm hoping u found ur energy at some point! this is is not and is or that and is or is not! -- our new dumbjim philosophy booko it's our best seller :B boy are we good at riting books or wad! i'm gonna split this up before you go on ur million/billion tangent. regarding going with ur gut and it seems right even if it isn't. a LOT can be said for making a decision. ANY decision. just picking something and going with it and being happy with it. the more you agonize over something the less happy you are with ur final choice no matter the outcome. i believe that's a true psychology philosophy thing i read. a lot of decisions don't matter that much and being decisive is all that matters. now, obviously there are limits to that! like, deciding wad to have for lunch is not the same as DECIDING TO JOIN A DOOMSDAY CULT THAT WILL CONTROL AN ROON UR ENTIRE LIFE!@$#$#@$#@ but i digress. and people are bad at math in general. and tend to believe the first story they hear. YEAH! RICH PEOPLE ARE BAD AND STUPID! *pea* *doesn't see or pay attention to the correction to the story* like that figure is just anchored in their mind and good luck getting it out no matter what. it's like giving sympathy to retarded people! WHY BOTHER!@# EXACTLY!@# and i'm willing to bet 99% of the people who talk and act a big game believer-wise fall in that category! OMG I WOULD HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THE BIGTIME IF IT WAS AN OPTION!@# HOLY FUCK. YES! DO A DANGEROUS HEART SURGERY PROCEDURE ON ME IF IT MEANS I DON'T HAS TO GO OUT IN SERVICE!@#$$#@$#@ greta life and bae peeps as far as teh eye can see! also everyone luvs u! now, the love is SUPER conditional, but still! now i will say, living by "bible principles" can save you some life problems. (but the same could maybe be said just from being brought up by in a solid family? ;dunno; i guess i'll nevar know aboot that! lol) but guaranteed godo life? ehh. spend tons / almost ALL ur free time working for the org and preaching and studying and nothing is ever enough 24/7. oh and if ur kids don't stay in the religion you can't talk to them anymore. enjoy! JOYFULLLL PEOPLE..... oh man. do you remember lance burroughs? he gave a creation talk and actually would bring a clear plastic box up there with a watch in it! [nasalvoice]now i've been giving this talk for many years and i keep bringing this box with me. *shakes watch* and it STILL hasn't turned into a watch. *croud goes wild* indeed godo! cognitive dissonance! and confirmation bias. and sunk cost fallacy... tons of psychology things that the longer you stay in you convince urself. cuz the alternative is that ur wrong and that is just.... NOT ACCEPTABLE AT THIS POINT! ;hairpull;; lol not ideal no! sweet this is just like living in this horrible dystopian made up future! lol i could fool mom and dad for a long time! they don't really talk to me much now as it is just cuz douglases don't communicate! but yeah, eventually they will start meetings back up in person. at least, i assume they will. ;dunno; and when that happens we will have to do something. cuz, i can't get dressed up and walk back into one of those places. just can't. so right now it is easy to fool everyone into thinking ur still kinda in. ALSO! if you fade out and just ignore the elders texts and calls, prior "friends" will occasionally try to "encourage" you to come back blah blah. and if you get spotted out in the wild buying a xmas tree or something they can still DF you for doing obviously non JW things cuz it's proof you are out or something. so it's kinda like JUST D.A. MYSELF NOW AND GET IT OVER WITH!@#$ then when people see me buying tons of trees they will slink the other way and hope i don't see them!@$##@$ ;hyper;;; also there are people on exjw reddit who are like DON'T DISSASSOCIATE THAT'S JUST PLAYING THEIR GAMES BY THEIR RULES! THEY GOT NO POWER OVER U JUST DO WAD U WANT AND FUCK EM!@#$ which i also sort of agree with. it's all a mess. also its SUCH bullshit that because the elders told you NO to getting baptized, ur totally fine to hang around with everyone dum dee do dahh... like what!? it's so crazy. you go celebrate xmas at angie's parents, then go hang with mom and dad and listen to dad crow about fishes growing feet. and it's fine. i buy ONE little xmas ornament and i'm the devil himself!@# BONUS BOY STRIKES AGAIN!@#$@#$$#@
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Post by isthisamo on Jan 8, 2022 4:04:17 GMT
;sadbackandforthsmiley; i haven't read this yet so i guess i'm hoping u found ur energy at some point! apparently i did! man o man. these guys sure rite short books! but also i love 'em! totally. ur gut and making quick decisions is totally helpful and useful and helps you all the time! but also, it can lead you astray and give you wrong answers! just has to be careful how much you "trust ur gut" if you don't has to. like maybe ur gut shouldn't be in charge of tweeting! that's all i'm saying. :B
DON'T TRY TO CHANGE MY MIND WITH UR STUPID LOGIC!@#!@ :stuburn: they don't even know wad sympathy is!!! :weary: i don't know how dangerous this surgery is, but i can tell you hasing the super sweet heart without all the service, totally the way to go. fantastic! doesn't make being around dad any better tho. :applerub: oh man, yeah. it's so off. i think they hope that the argument gets you in long enough that the brainwashing can take over. DON'T WORRY GUY! TAKE A REST! RELAX! HAVE A FEW REPETITIVE BOOKOS!
dah, ok!
remember! pray about super sweet witness stef like 13 times a day! TIA!! HTH!
oh man, i don't recall that one. not sure if he started the box after i left or i jes dun remember. but yeah people are all HELL YES!@ IF U CAN'T SHAKEMAKE A WATCH THEN YOU CAN'T HAVE EVOLUTION! THAT'S JUST COMMON SENSE!@! how can half the world believe in this crap!@#?? must be the devil! :usehaid: i was just looking arounf and i forgot how much stuff the jws put out about evolution being wrong. that scientists don't agree on it (eh, most do). that the fossil record doesn't show wad they say it does. mmm, it's better than ever. also, we're lucky to has the fossils we do. mostly everything just decomposes. it's rare circumstances that produce the fossils. that is why there are so few.
but the vast majority is just talking about how complex everything is. as if complexity is an argument in itself.
oh they also had some quote or some crap about how brain size doesn't indicate smarter things. eh, yeah, it kinda does. like, there are some exceptions, but like, say a sperm whale for example. its brain is fucking huge. but we don't know how brains work yet! we don't know wad the sperm whales are doing with that huge brain really. and also there are other complications about how different species brains don't work the same. like really complicated words that i don't know like encephalization ratio. but still, larger brains generally correlate with higher intelligence. and if ur talking about brains that are super similar, like monkeys, apes, and us. brain size is totally a general intelligence indicator.
hmm. sorry for the tangent.
worth it tho to live in the horrible future where you walk arounf with a giant scrollbooko and watch asian people cook with a wok and ride in canoes and stuff! :usehaid: oh yeah, totally. i was thinking that in person conventions will definitely be a thing that would make it hard to keep faking if you dun go to those!
wad?! no, we went to a different one. it was so good! oh man. i was so uplifted my pants almost fell off!@#!@# yeah, cuz it also depends on how much people who see u do stef care. so you could go tons of time just doin ur thing and not get DFed at all. or you could totally get DFd bigtime right away cuz someone sees you hanging out with the devil and giving him a high-five and stuff! :dunno: well brother. i had the right heart condition. erm, wrong heart condition. even at 15 or whenever the hell that was i couldn't convincingly sell the bullshit. like i couldn't say things like "oh yeah! i wanna grow up to be a pioneer! :B" with a straight face!
that's wad i tell myself sometimes. but another likely scenario is that they said no to me out of spite for dad! :hyper: which is the most believable thing and is probably wad happened. so yeah, timing luck. which really, life is all about luck! that's another thing people don't like to admit. NO WAY! U JES NEED HURD WURK!! U GO FAR IF WORK! eh, nah, it doesn't really work that way. it can help a little. but really you need luck.
tho i do agree a bit with scott adams about giving yourself tons of skills and that way u'll be more suited to take advantage of opportunities or luck when it happens.
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Post by ditkanate on Jan 8, 2022 17:46:19 GMT
totally. ur gut and making quick decisions is totally helpful and useful and helps you all the time! but also, it can lead you astray and give you wrong answers! just has to be careful how much you "trust ur gut" if you don't has to. like maybe ur gut shouldn't be in charge of tweeting! that's all i'm saying. :B meh. my gut tweets all teh time! it's fine! i think i read something about making fast decisions on things that are easily changeable if you dun like how it turns out. try something for a few weeks and if the downside isn't catastrophic dun worry aboot it too much. avoiding catastrophic downside is generally godo. tweets can be baleeted. i suppose not. i mean, it's a pacemaker not a miracle worker. :B wel eye gez eye wil. ;pray; ;dumdeedoodah; *nothing happens* *life sucks* well. also we have this totally making sense booko call teh bibbly which tells us about eve and the magic tree and snake and stuff. WHICH OBVIOUSLY MAKES MORE SENSE THAT WATCH SHAKING!@#$@#$ ;usehaid; sure sure. show me the wingfish fossil and maybe we can talk. ;stuburn; there is something that is hard to believe about this happening by accident. it is hard to wrap ur brain around. so that feeling plays into it, maybe that's most of it. like, COME ON, this is all jsut.... happened? it is kind of mind blowing. ;twak; also isn't it possible dolphins are just as smart as us but just have an unfortunate environment to live in? i saw something about our brain being the evolutionary advantage. cuz we can out think and hunt big dumb animals and whatever. i dunno. i nett reed much on it. :B forever. what's funny is you COULD say that and keep people fooled for a while. the people locally here tho will notice right away if u dun come back to in person meetings. ohhhh yeah we switched over to this other congregation. did we not tell you that? lol we so dumb. ;floet;;; ;highfive; i think i just like thinking about the finality of it. JUST END IT!@# GAH!@# spite for dad? noooooo. where on earth would that come from! ;hyper; also maybe it was a combo. like, well... we DO hate gary. and this guy obviously sucks and is just doing this out of expectation. tho obvs normally we dun care aboot that and just wave them on through. this would really stick it to gary thoo.... wad to do wad to dooooo. yeah its a combo. two people can both work hard on something similar, one finds success through luck, the other doesn't. but the third guy who never tried at all had no chance. gotta have some effort at something! like, if you just stayed at electric avenue and didn't finish college... ur life suxxors. or you don't go out with ur coworkines at rivermont u just go home and smoke doobies and play video games. no wife. no jakarta... blah blah blah. you have to do enough to be in circumstances where luck can find you.
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Post by isthisamo on Jan 9, 2022 12:38:52 GMT
meh. my gut tweets all teh time! it's fine! i think i read something about making fast decisions on things that are easily changeable if you dun like how it turns out. try something for a few weeks and if the downside isn't catastrophic dun worry aboot it too much. avoiding catastrophic downside is generally godo. tweets can be baleeted. sure, if you aren't famous. still i'd vote for the surgery. i wonder if your disdain changes at all after? hmmm. probably not praying HARD enough. probably. oh yeah. that's true too. i can't argue with this at all, quite frankly. but even if they has teh wingfish fossil the jdubs would just say it was bullshit and the paleontologists just stuck wing fossils they founds on a fish or some crap and then shake a watch in a bag and move on. yeah, that is true. one thing about it is how slow it works. there was something i was looking at in the jws crap and they were talking about how they couldn't duplicate something in a lab or whatever. they were trying to mutate new species or something and couldn't do it. and angie was like, well yeah. it takes too long. we can't do mutation experiments fast enough or with enough quantity to duplicate how it actually works. not in big things especially cuz they take too long to develop. that is why some of the best evidence is what has been done with bacteria. cuz the answer is billions of them and super fast reproduction. so you can replicate evolution bigtime on that scale and see it. replicate isn't quite teh right word maybe. you can see it happening. honest to goodness real world evolution, right before our microscoped eyes! that is true. that is an advantage. we killed smart instead of with pure muscle and teeth. and then we also multiplied that by working together as well. animals do that too, but added together with the smart killing and u really got something. but the community is an evolutionary advantage as well as smarts. so things like love and wanting to be arounf other humans actually is an advantage as well.
as far as the dolphins, we can't really measure the intelligence of pretty much any sea creatures cuz there isn't any metric. just cuz they can't talk to us doesn't mean shit. even trainability isn't really a good intelligence metric. u wouldn't want THAT BLISS to end!@@! :usehaid: sure sure. i was thinking of only fooling thine parents. don't really give a shit about any of those other people. :B makes sense. are a you rip the band-aid off kinda guy? i don't think of you as one. oh yeah, the combo makes good sense. like it would have been harder for them to stick to gary if i had just nailed the questions expertly bigtime! and they'd be all how could this be gary's boy?! last time we checked he's a fucking moron that listens to AC/DC and spews in teh shower all the time!@?? :confused: true true. a lot of folks don't want to admit how much luck plays a part. also, i think luck is a huge deal for the super successful. the jeff bezos and bill gateses and stuff. luck piled upon luck. even if you say they are hard working or smart, that's luck too cuz either you were borned into it or raised into it. doesn't matter if you believe nurture or nature, it's still luck of the draw.
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Post by ditkanate on Jan 11, 2022 17:47:07 GMT
sure, if you aren't famous. doubtful. i think that's like, embedded in our dna at this point. that sounds right. you know, you have to gIvE hIm sOmEtHiNg 2 blEsS! so, try pioneering AND praying. ;usehaid; hell! i'll put some fish and some wings and a bag and shake THAT! STILL NO WINGFISH! not sure what more proof you could want or need. ;dunno; *viruses mutate and evolve bigtime* THAT DOESN'T COUNT!@# also species adapting to environments can be seen in real time also. but that also doesn't count i guess. adaptations aren't species changes!!@#$ you know, until they adapt so far that it's a new species. :B i heard this thing about lab mice. that they keep breeding this same group and it's what everyone uses in lab mice testing. and they are virtually unrecognizable when you compare it to an old school field mouse. these are big fat docile practically domesticated mice! and it's been like, i dunno, a couple decades of natural selection / breeding. hey sbw, wanna do some evolutionary advantaging? ;leer; yeah, like they could be down there in the ocean living it up and making fun of us humans bigtime! LMAO Y DO THEY KEEP FUCKING EVERYTHING UP? we just lives down here trouble free!@#$ too bad they caught steve the other day. poor guy has to do tricks for fish now. understandable. we don't give much of a shit about most of them. there's a few that it would suck tho. i think if we're just talking mom and dad.... man. i think i could fool them for eternity tbh. imo. fwiw. they'd have to hear something through teh old grapevine as it were. which.. is possible, but dimwitt ia is pretty removed from everyone we know. :B never really thought aboot it i guess. i suppose i'm not. but in this instance... IT'S BEEN 50 YEARS I THINK I'M READY!@#$@#$ also i have an anti-social streak that really likes the thought of people LITERALLY unable to speak with me even if they might want to. ;hyper;;; boy, they know dad even better than i thought! also what's retarded on the other side of this coin, is all 3 of my kids DID get baptized. (talk about waving people through. mac and maya had NO business being approved). anyway, so all 3 baptized, all 3 not a jw any more. but because the elders were unable to pin them down long enough to DF them, it's technically fine if we hang out with them. and Lindy will talk to all 3 no probs. but Zach her df'd grandkid... nope. like DUDE ALL 3 OF MINE SHOULD BE DF'D! I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS OVER HERE! if they sat down with an elder and were honest, they'd be DF'd. 100% no questions asked. SO WHAT IS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE$#@$#@#@$@#$ lindy: well there's just something about that official announcement. ;weary; right! but that can also be a cop out for not trying! WELL OBVS THOSE GUYS WERE JUST LUCKY!@# IT'S NOT THAT I SUCK I JUST DUN HAS THEIR LUCK PRIVELEGE STEF!@#$$#@ ;stuburn;
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Post by isthisamo on Jan 12, 2022 8:43:21 GMT
disdna is disdaindna baby!! awww yeeahhh!
i think horrible is in there too. oh right!
HEY! I CAN'T BLESS THAT!@#@!# :gross:
god looking at you.
don't need no more proof. no sir! tho, you need to shake that bag for a LONG TIME!! long time. so once uv shook it for a good few months straight. then i'm good. pickin up all the field mice and bopping them on the head! :twak: uhh, YEAH!! sbw probably poor fella. at least he really loves fish! the dolphins or whoever. that's what i was thinking. but you'd have to want to. like you can do it for a while still without trying. but eventually you'd have to put some effort in. probably. oh that makes sense. oh the bunch of you fuckwads can't talk to me, by your own dumb rools! oh man, that is a real shame. real shaem. oh yeah. he's like an open book to them really. look, rules are rules! :stuburn: easiest if we just follow the rules and don't think much. that's the way they like us. it's better for everyone that way. well, except for those poor df'ed fuckers, but they deserve it! excuse my language. tee hee.
lindy maybe
well sure, lazy people are going to has their excuses. if you want to use it as a crutch to be lazy, whatevs, you was gonna be lazy anyway. but it makes sense to acknowledge it. like no reason to have a bunch of self loathing cuz you can't match elon's musk!@
few can fine sir. few can. but you never had a chance! you were using numbers and stuff!
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Post by ditkanate on Jan 12, 2022 20:55:40 GMT
disdna is disdaindna baby!! awww yeeahhh! i think horrible is in there too. definitely an argument to be made there. pretty solid argument. god is wise! can't argue with his decision making really, in that regard. a good few million billion months. nbd really that does seem to be their standard answer. good old steve. steve the fishlover! we used to call him that. before he became seaworld steve. more aquatic creature convos. *i have like a zztop length beard* *mom and dad eye me a bit suspicious like* ;pipe; real real shaem for real. ;floet; oh what's that, one of the fuckwads is dad? huh! REAL SHAME. shame on me tbh imo. opps i mean tee hee its ok to say fuckers when speaking of the df'd. i believe that is a well known jehoober rule exception! *i fill a cup with dirt* emm eye elune mosk? :B
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Post by isthisamo on Jan 13, 2022 9:56:22 GMT
definitely an argument to be made there. pretty solid argument. real solid. and juicy. a juicy solid argument. that's also slimy.
i guess we're lucky that no one will want to touch that argument!@ i know if i looked at me i would think, BLESS THAT CREATURE!@#@! POST HASTE!@ GO ON NOW!? WHO HAS THE BLESSING STAFF?!@#?? GET TO IT!!
i assume it works something like that. :dunno:
folks, i've been giving this talk for... *counts on fingers* 2 1/2 million years! and i've been shaking this winged watch bag the whole time. and i still don't have a watch or a flying fish!!!@ that's denny or whoever the fuck does that talk. to be fair, everyone wants more evololutionary advantantages! :usehaid:
now give 'em to me good! - teh sbw
you know, seaworld steve looks like he's doing alright. doesn't go for those long swims he loved so much anymore. his true love besides teh fish. the beard thing is more of a suggestion these days. --dad he would probably break the rule for you BIGTIME!! he'd give it a few months, but then he'd be back on that nathan train so fast!@#!# whoooo!@#! chooo chooo!@!# that sounds right honestly. like, and i have to agree with teh jehoobers on this one. well, ur pretty close to his sweat. i mean in intelligence. like ur as smart as mosk's sweat! u can take that to the bank!
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Post by ditkanate on Jan 13, 2022 17:43:34 GMT
real solid. and juicy. a juicy solid argument. that's also slimy. i guess we're lucky that no one will want to touch that argument!@ are we lucky? i think the lucky ones are the ones who don't have to touch this argument! ;pst; i dun even wanna know what the argument is. can we move it along? ;run; honestly, i can't argue with any of that. if anything, that method seems almost TOO reasonable for how blessings seem to get doled out into the world. maybe the blessing staff gets misplaced a lot or it isn't well guarded so angels who aren't supposed to just "borrow" it and bless whatever in gods blazes they want!!@#@# it's lance burroughs god dammit!!@# not that it matters. *the parts are just worn down metal nubs* metal dust? ;dunno; everyone does want the advantages. true. the sbw's tho, they like to be given to them good and hard and often!!@#$$#@ still gets to enjoy one of his two true loves. could be worse for steve! went to a football game with him a while back and he saw me and said: BEARDO!! i know i know. amazing story. ;vernoog; GAH!@# I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT WORK!@#$@ *i take it to the bank* *they don't particularly care for it*
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